Super Smash Brothers Mafia! [Archive]

Mr Brown

04-16-04, 18:04

Apparently Faydh, Netherskiver, Stax Reborn, and Viperdude have failed to note that the Serial Killer is an anti-town role. Even though you probably meant vigilante, it is good practice to get your roles straight if you want to seem innocent. For that, all three of you deserve a Finger of Suspicion.

Zoobamaphooza seems to have taken good care of the roles in this game, so even though I have very little knowledge of Super Smash Brothers, hopefully it will be a fun game. However, I'm sure he didn't forsee the death of the Serial Killer this early in the game. This a great boon to us, since if the game is balanced correctly, the serial killer would have been expected to do some killing. Let's make sure we take advantage of this and make the most of this day.

Phanto

04-16-04, 18:25

Exactly, Mr. Brown.

SK is bad. It takes time away. We need time to hunt down mafia.

Gnoom

04-16-04, 18:34

Brown... although you are mostly right, note the serial killer can often take out a bunch of mafia as well. This is probably why Faydh, Stax and Viper were not too happy with his death. Of course, he is in fact anti-town and will want to kill of the town, so it can work greatly in our advantage.
I unfortuantely have no knowledge of Super Smash Brothers as well, but I think there are enough people out here who do.

Lone Warrior

04-16-04, 19:05

Samus is dead? :( She was my favorite character in Smash Brothers. I would pwn everyone in RL, dodging, blasting, and always, the gun. Ah, brings back memories. Sweet nostalgia.

Anyway, back to the game. SK being dead is good. Two kills a night would have equaled doom, although the chances of killing a mafia... we would never know.

Viperdude

04-16-04, 19:18

Oh sorry, I just assumed the SK was town like the Vigilante normally is. Still, there is a chance that Verbal could of killed mafia. Though as Lone Warrier said, you never know what would of happened.

On another topic, I hate my role :(

Arg[y]veDawnshooter

04-16-04, 19:20

Alright, time for pointless day one spamming. *Cracks fingers* How should we do it? Just talk a lot or randomly lynch? Anyone creative enough to invent a new day one system? Yeah, boredomness.

Anyway, yeah, the SK is bad for the town. Though I'm a little suspicious of Mr. Brown for going right on about what the others said. Odd.

Hatredboy77

04-16-04, 19:53

Hey guys. I hope this is gonna be a good game, and I love SSBM so I think it will. Here are possible characters:

1. Bowser
2. Captain Falcon
3. Donkey Kong
4. Dr. Mario
5. Falco Lombardi
6. Fox McCloud
7. Ganondorf
8. Ice Climbers
9. Jigglypuff
10. Kirby
11. Link
12. Luigi
13. Mario
14. Marth
15. Mewtwo
16. Mr. Game & Watch
17. Ness
18. Peach
19. Pichu
20. Pikachu
21. Roy
22. Samus Aran
23. Yoshi
24. Young Link
25. Zelda

I was gonna say that samus would be a serial killer of Vig cuz she IS a bounty hunter. Which brings me to my next point, Even If the character is GOOD in some games, the character might actually be EVIL. For example, Mewtwo or Samus. Note: even though these are all the characters you can be in SSBM and there are 25, I doubt that these are all the characters. What about master hand?

Uhh.. I really dont feel like voting now cuz I g2g soon and Id rather think about my vote than just put it whereever.

Dementia Blader

04-16-04, 20:05

Vote Hatredboy77

It's bad to give the mafia claims. Have you considered that some scum might not have played?

Oh yeah, and you forgot Birdo

Viperdude

04-16-04, 20:12

Now when I roleclaim everyone will think I'm lying because my role is simple and is on that list :rolleyes:

Zoobamaphooza

04-16-04, 20:16

Current Votes:

Hatredboy77 - 1 (Dementia Blader)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)

12 to kill.

Day one is always so boring...

Washu

04-16-04, 20:19

Who i could see as evil:

Im not telling

I will say this, X_moo's post made me think, with alot of the past few games, vig's have gotten trgger happy, im t[sub]he biggest one. So vig's would be good for the mafia, as they usually have limited kills, a SK on the other hand, does not. Therefore under the rules of OMGUS, and the GNU convention

Vote Xmoo

sorry about the formatting, i wanted to see how it looked as a post

Zoobamaphooza

04-16-04, 20:21

That's what the testing ground is for :rollseyes:

Votes:
Hatredboy77 - 1 (Dementia Blader)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)
X_MoO_U_OoM_X - 1 (Washu)

Viperdude

04-16-04, 20:21

fos: LYL, I don't understand your logic, and type right.

Washu

04-16-04, 20:41

@ zoob, i meant what it looked like from a game standpoint, it did what i wanted it to do.

Viper- no one understands my logic, and btw, that was a OMGUS vote that ill probalby retract later

Viperdude

04-16-04, 21:10

I can't even understand why you would vote for him. Vote LYL.

:sigh:, I feel sorry for Rko.

Washu

04-16-04, 21:18

Viper-

Its day one, and it was a random vote

Unvote

Im not gonna screw things up for rko. besides I have been told, if i catch him on for a few seconds, i can confer with him

Chrome Moxen

04-16-04, 21:37

Vote Washu

Washu, you are a fool;).

Another season of my great crap logic (has won me a game or two:))

Zoobamaphooza

04-16-04, 22:09

Votes:
Hatredboy77 - 1 (Dementia Blader)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)
Washu - 2 (Viperdude, Chrome Moxen)

Chrome Moxen

04-16-04, 22:14

Mr Brown

04-16-04, 22:20

Claiming a role this early in the game is not a wise deicison unless you are using it as evidence to support an accusation. It appears as though Washu has attempted to subtly hide his identity in his post using supscripted letters. They spell 'Marth', which matches on Hatredboy77's list.

At this point I'm going to vote for Washu. His behavior is erratic. Also, his logic in Post #22 is completely flawed. When played correctly the serial killer better for the mafia than a vigilante because the Serial Killer is firstly trying to kill the town, not only the mafia, and secondly gets more kills. Even if this is ignored, one will still note that by definition the Serial Killer is anti-town, and that the Vigilante is pro-town. Plus his post is poorly formatted and difficult to read. In the future I can forsee him only distracting the town from finding the mafia, regardless of his alignment.

Washu

04-16-04, 22:28

Brown- I KNOW THIS, i was saying from a mafia's standpoint, the vig is better for the mafia, and the SK isnt.

Please unvote me, yes im marth, and reveiled it for reasons i dont want to say at the moment, and was trying to hint more in that post, there is more hidden in it,

Unvoting me is wise, trust meh

Chrome Moxen

04-16-04, 22:34

Well if he gave away his "identity" (maybe a fake) that would just give him attention. Thus mafia know who he is (if he is telling the truth) and the town knows who he is. Why do you do this Washu? An upgrade in your role? Might get you killed. I would watch out if I were you.[/craplogic]

Vote stands

Washu

04-16-04, 22:40

Moxen-

unvote me, darnit, i know your a townie, just like me. Im not a fake, Altho the ability alloted to marth, doesnt fit his character. I would have gave it to someone else, like umm. well. Luigi, or Princess Zelda/Sheik.

But seriously, if you lynch me, it would really suck for the town. Maybe i shouldnt have said something, but i did for a reason

reedofalethia

04-16-04, 22:42

Checking in.
Which characters ARE evil, though? I can only think of a 3-4 off the top of my head; the rest are good.

Zoobamaphooza

04-16-04, 23:05

Votes:
Washu - 3 (Viperdude, Chrome Moxen,Mr Brown)
Hatredboy77 - 1 (Dementia Blader)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)

I feel sorry for RKO...

Viperdude

04-17-04, 00:08

So in your first post you hint at your role? WTF?

Hatredboy77

04-17-04, 00:16

Vote Hatredboy77

It's bad to give the mafia claims. Have you considered that some scum might not have played?

Oh yeah, and you forgot Birdo

Uhh.. yea... you think I am mafia cuz I am telling the mafia the roles in SSBM. A). If I was mafia I would just PM them this info B). You can look it up C). Everyone needs to know the roles in the game so you can understand the characters.

Isn't Washu a temporary replacement? In his first post he gives his identity away. He might be telling the truth, but you totally screwed over the "real Marth" (who i think is ryo.. not sure). Thats not cool at all. But I dunno, mafia wouldn't role claim this early so I think I'll believe him for now.

Faydh, Netherskiver

04-17-04, 00:32

If he really is Marth, then he'd be town (I think). I looked into the Fire Emblem game, and he is the main protagonist in it even if he does have blue hair. If you are telling the truth that you're Marth, you're giving Mafia a clearer idea who to kill, and you are shafting RKO if he comes back to find a smoldering pile of crap where once his blue haired hero-guy was.

Fos: Washu just because of the bad form...

Hatredboy77

04-17-04, 00:45

I'm sorry, but Rko doesn't deserve to be shafted because of what Washu did. Not only should Washu be kicked out of the game for good, he should be banned for even doing that as a replacement to someone who is coming back. There was no need to role claim in the first place. I vote we dont lynch him, but rather get an exorcist and remove the soul of Marth (Washu) and replace it with a replacement until rko gets back. That just wasn't cool, man.

Zoobamaphooza

04-17-04, 01:16

I know that you guys think that RKO is getting shafted, but at this point there is nothing I can do. My only choices are to let things run their course, remove Washu from the game, which will throw a monkey wrench into RKO's strategy, or start over. The only reasonably thing to do is just let it run its course. Keep in mind that in leaving, RKO gave up his right to play, and I was given control over who would play for him. I (unwisely) gave it to Washu, but that's because he was first to ask.

I'm going to request that you guys just forget about RKO and play as if Washu is a normal game member.

Gnoom

04-17-04, 07:51

Drap... I'm really inclined to vote Washu, but I guess he is town (again). So, FOS Washu/LYL.

Also, HatredBoy, whether or not the mafia could look it up for themselves, posting that list was pretty stupid. You're still giving them free roleclaims they otherwise would have to Google for at the least. However, it does not mean you are mafia. On the contrary, it makes me believe you are town. Believing you are town makes me vote Dementia Blader for using craplogic to jump on someone. (Yes, I know it is day one :))

Washu

04-17-04, 08:53

Hatredboy77

04-17-04, 09:19

look people, there is a reason i rc'd early. normally i wouldnt have even posted much, since i am only a placeholder. but i did it for a reason. So once you guys understand the reasons i did what i did, you will understand

i could have swore there was some smarter people among us

Dude, you role claim out of the blue and say you have a "reason" (which you haven't told us yet) and you basically call us stupid because we dont know that reason. Seriously, you might as well tell us because you have been saying that if you die, it would "suck for the town". What do you think the mafia are going to do tonight? Plus, we have a doctor (who I think is Dr. Mario, it makes sense, but i dunno).

If you don't wanna tell us, I guess that's fine. Marth can't have THAT good of an ability. But maybe Marth does...

Shadowlord

04-17-04, 10:03

Dude that was weak!!!
Anyway I was leaning towards voting Washu but seeing all this mess i don't it'd be cool.
Anyways the SK gone is a good thing for town especialy early game.

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 10:11

I just noticed something with Marth / Roy and it really hits us hard. They can charge up their sword attack (in the game) and maybe if they reveal themselves they become an sk / vigilante after their fully powered...:?UNvote Washu (for now)

FoS Washu

OH and btw reed ill list good and bad (or what I think of em)

1. Bowser - Bad
2. Captain Falcon - Maybe Bad (He's a bounty hunter, like samus right?)
3. Donkey Kong - Good
4. Dr. Mario - Good
5. Falco Lombardi - Good
6. Fox McCloud - GOod
7. Ganondorf - Bad
8. Ice Climbers - Good
9. Jigglypuff - Good
10. Kirby - Not Sure (Maybe one of those roles when he can change into something bad)
11. Link - Good
12. Luigi - Good
13. Mario - Good
14. Marth - Washu (Not sure if Good or Evil)
15. Mewtwo - Bad
16. Mr. Game & Watch - Little 2-D dude isnt bad
17. Ness - Good
18. Peach - Good
19. Pichu - Good
20. Pikachu - Good
21. Roy - Like Marths role, not sure
22. Samus Aran - Bad
23. Yoshi - Good
24. Young Link - Good
25. Zelda - Good

and their is no Birdo. Thats just what I think the good and evil are.

Dementia Blader

04-17-04, 10:58

Look, I'm not saying your scum, but that you just shouldn't help the mafia. They could look it up, but we don't have to present it on a silver platter. I just voted you because I have no better target, but i'll unvote Hatredboy and vote Washu because anyone that uses some wonky encryption like that is doing it for a purpose. I'm betting she is some kind of scum that can use sub and superscripts to satisfy some requirement.

Dementia Blader

04-17-04, 10:59

Sorry to double post, but in response to the Birdo thing, that was a joke. We all know theirs no Birdo. I hope.

Highroller

04-17-04, 12:02

Sorry all, I've been really busy over the week, but a lot of stuff has cleared up so more time for mafia :).

So the mafia got the serial killer? Good for us. That actually is a disadvantage to the mafia in some ways as it means less townies dead, so let's just hope they continue to screw themselves over. And it's Samus too! BWAHAHAHA! Take THAT all you Samus followers.

*Soundbite of Samus falling off a cliff. "GAME SET"*

1. Bowser
2. Captain Falcon
3. Donkey Kong
4. Dr. Mario
5. Falco Lombardi
6. Fox McCloud
7. Ganondorf
8. Ice Climbers
9. Jigglypuff
10. Kirby
11. Link
12. Luigi
13. Mario
14. Marth
15. Mewtwo
16. Mr. Game & Watch
17. Ness
18. Peach
19. Pichu
20. Pikachu
21. Roy
22. Samus Aran
23. Yoshi
24. Young Link
25. Zelda

I was gonna say that samus would be a serial killer of Vig cuz she IS a bounty hunter. Which brings me to my next point, Even If the character is GOOD in some games, the character might actually be EVIL. For example, Mewtwo or Samus. Note: even though these are all the characters you can be in SSBM and there are 25, I doubt that these are all the characters. What about master hand?

I admit I've only played the N64 Smash Bros, but if there are 25 characters, and 25 players in this game (hint, Zooba, number the people still alive), it's pretty obvious this is the case.

I think it's more likely that we are all playable characters so that name-claiming would not automatically yield mafia. After all, the person who claimed Master Hand would get owned.

Who i could see as evil:

Im not telling

I will say this, X_moo's post made me think, with alot of the past few games, vig's have gotten trgger happy, im t[sub]he biggest one. So vig's would be good for the mafia, as they usually have limited kills, a SK on the other hand, does not. Therefore under the rules of OMGUS, and the GNU convention

Vote Xmoo

sorry about the formatting, i wanted to see how it looked as a post

... So basically it's a random vote, but you've both created the illusion of an actual thought process behind this, and have obscured that with a really stupid font? Typical LYL behavior.

reed: The thing is, very few characters themselves are evil. I think the only ones are Bowser and Ganondorf. Maybe Mewtwo, but Mewtwo's not evil so much as he is freaking awesome. Samus, however, is certainly not evil, which means that we shouldn't be too concerned with the roles of the characters in their respective games.

Although, while we are on the subject, who the heck are Marth and Roy?

I'm going to vote Washu. His playing style was erratic, is erratic, and shows no sign of ever being anything other than erratic. Reading his posts is like being stuck in a glacier and trying to gnaw your way out with your teeth. Out of all the people here, it currently benefits the town the most to have him removed.

FOS: Dementia Blader. I don't see how just posting a list of characters is going to aid the mafia that much. I'm almost positive everyone has a character anyway, and such a list could be found off the internet.

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 12:28

High: Marth is a prince. Roy is a king. Its in some old game. And They both need time to power-up their swords. So as I saids earlier, perhaps thats why Washu is role-claming so early on. Also, Bowser and Ganon are both very evil (obviously) but than theirs Samus. She is a damned bounty hunter! Anyone could have hired her to do their durty(:)) work. And I think Captain Falcon is a bounty hunter to or maybe just a racer, not sure. But than their is Kirby. That sly piece of pink dough (perhaps) could suck in anyone's power. Perhaps Washu is kirby, and he needs to say his targets character (He said Marth, maybe now hes a kirby marth) but their are many possibilities. W00 that took a while

X_MoO_U_OoM_X for being my brother. And not posting for a while. Maybe hes suspicious...

washu never do that again

CRiX

04-17-04, 14:16

hrm, just my two cents about the bad/good thing.

Wasn't Donky Kong bad in the old games where you had to save the princess? Sure he's good in Donky Kong Land or whatever, but I think he's bad in this case, otherwise there's almost no evil roles.

Having such a limited list to claim from is so sweet for the town, IMO. Unless classic good characters are bad then there's almost nothing that a cornered mafia can do. Claim something someone else has, bad news for you.

Anyway, nothing all too important above this. At this point in time I would just lay off of Washu, since, eh, day 1. but if that's the best we've got to go on? We should probably keep at it, maybe take a look at the hard-core anti-claiming people? Since mafia would not want a claiming fest to begin.

reedofalethia

04-17-04, 14:55

Perhaps roy and marth are masons(i wouldnt know) and Washu roleclaimed knowing roy would back him up? perhaps he needs to find out who roy is and vice versa?

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 15:00

reedofalethia

04-17-04, 15:07

yeah.... Zoob DID say get ready for a melee, soo.... Im pretty sure thats untrue.

HOWEVER, you just told us youre likely one of the original characters. ZING!

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 15:10

I did? How so? And a melee is like close combat (or thats what I think) so that doesn't mean anything.

Washu your dumb

Dementia Blader

04-17-04, 15:41

By saying it's could be SSM based. If you're role was from Melee, you wouldn't have entertained that notion. Melee is close combat, true, but it is also the name of the sequal.

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 15:59

Yes, does that matter? No. It doesn't But if it was normal still lotsa people would still be in their like link, samus, and cpt falcon. Less players. But than their are 25 people...:|. I dont know. Im going to post what I think each role does cause i have nothing better to do.

Good Bad Normal
Bowser - Mafia
Captain Falcon - Sk / Mafia
Donkey Kong - Not sure.
Dr. Mario - Doctor Ability
Falco Lombardi - Same effect as Cloud
Fox McCloud - Vigilante maybe (he has a gun)
Ganondorf - Mafia
Ice Climbers - May team up with other Ice dude
Jigglypuff - May deactivate one persons abilility for a day (sleep)
Kirby - Sk / Vigilante / Town
Link - Use sword somehow
Luigi - Teams up with mario (Brothers)
Mario - same as luigi
Marth - Mason of some sort
Mewtwo - Mafia
Mr. Game & Watch -Townie
Ness - ?
Peach - ?
Pichu - Deputy - inherits pikachu's role (hes teh baby of pikachu)
Pikachu - Vigi?
Roy - Mason with Marth
Samus Aran - Sk (DEAD)
Yoshi - ?
Young Link - deputy for Link
Zelda - ?

piano rock

04-17-04, 16:54

Hello all I'm just checking in. Sorry i couldnt check in until today...****ty computer. So i've read everything and i'm kinda confused on why everyone is voting for Washu......it seems kinda pointless, so for now, NO VOTE.

reedofalethia

04-17-04, 18:42

Problem with that list Chrome is that thats far too few mafia in comparison. Some of the good characters must be bad. My hypothesis on good(but mafia) characters:

1. Jigglypuff. That whole cute act aint fooling anyone :evil:
2. Donkey Kong. Hey, he used to be Mario's enemy...

Dementia Blader

04-17-04, 18:47

Rio, Washu roleclaimed day one in a funky manner, and she's shafted RKo's game. That's why we vote. Don't be mean to are cabbit-named members!

Washu

04-17-04, 19:18

Damnit, now i will get you guys off my back

I am a kirby, i believe there are 2 of us, we can pick a target once a night, and become their character. I chose (person) and i am marth until tonight.

So, in essence i am a inspector, that gets good or guilty verdicts. the person i investigated last night, was good, but i wont reveil who it is, due to marths awesome ability.

Marth's ability is godlike when protected by a doctor. I can chose to revert back to kirby at night, or wait till day, so i can use the characters ability.

Thats why you guys are being dumb. I just wanted to hint at the real marth, that a kirby was out there, and borrowed his abilities

Phanto

04-17-04, 22:00

Thought.
Process.
Logic.
*cracks knuckle*
Evil.
Law.

We must all post our roles. That make game fun. It give mafia no advantage. It hurt mafia. Be logical. All post role, all be smart.

Role name not mean ability. Samus was evil, yes. So what? Samus the name ain't evil.

Alright.

Sorry about that.

I say we all post our character name. Nothing bad can come out of it; only good. We can chop down the mafia as there probably is some pattern to who is mafia and evil.

I am suspicious of Washu's claim. But it can be subsantiated. Simply post Marth's ability, and if it contradicts the real marth's ability, the real marth will step forward and pount this out.

Washu

04-17-04, 22:04

Phanto-

I will not comply to your request of marths ability, doing so would ruin my strategy, and hurt the town. If i was to post it, the mafia would know exactly how to kill the town.

Zoobamaphooza

04-17-04, 22:06

Votes:
Washu - 4 (Viperdude, Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)
X_MoO_U_OoM_X - 1 (Chrome Moxen)

12 to kill

Yay for weathering the storm!

Phanto

04-17-04, 22:07

The thing is, very few characters themselves are evil. I think the only ones are Bowser and Ganondorf. Maybe Mewtwo, but Mewtwo's not evil so much as he is freaking awesome. Samus, however, is certainly not evil, which means that we shouldn't be too concerned with the roles of the characters in their respective games.

Exactly, Highroller. Solid logic. Which is the exactreason we should all role claim.

Washu: You're being absurd and very mafialike. Explain yourself now before public sentiment rises against you are you are lynched.

Gibberish.
Sprouts.

Zoobamaphooza

04-17-04, 22:10

Phanto: Please don't type in bold unless you're voting.

Washu

04-17-04, 22:11

Phanto-

FINE, ill spill the beans

Marth is a nightkiller. a vigilante
I plan on inspecting tonight, ill re-ghost myself as marth later in the game. I wanna get some inspections in, for now

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 22:12

Washu. I KNEW IT! I KNEW YOU WERE KIRBY!!!! HAVE YOU SEEN MY POSTS ABOUT HOW YOU CAN SAY A NAME AND BE HIM! OR MAYBE YOUR JUST LYING EITHER WAY I KNEW IT HAHAHAHAHA! Whats Marth's ability?

I didn't finish my list cuz i needed to go so my bro just posted with ?'s.

I will finish it now:

Ness - Some psychic effect (Pk thunder inactivity perhaps)
Peach - Can't trust her. She was taken by bowser and DK....
Yoshi - Uses some egg ability of some sort
Zelda - Can change into Shiek. Maybe a normal townie than a vigi or whatnot.

reed: Maybe you are right. Looks can be decieving. Maybe Zoombamaphooza (or whatever that silly name is ;)) was being tricky and used Peach as a bad guy because after all she did spend all that time with bowser, AND Dk.

If Dk is bad whats his ability? Normal mafia?

w00 that took a while.washu you copie cat

Ha you fools thought I was saying its ok for Washu to be kirby?!?!? Hell no. He just copied what i said... Look HAHAHAHAHA I QUOTE MYSELF "But than their is Kirby. That sly piece of pink dough (perhaps) could suck in anyone's power. Perhaps Washu is kirby, and he needs to say his targets character (He said Marth, maybe now hes a kirby marth) but their are many possibilities." Post # 50. Read it and weep!got you now boy, I got you now

Unvote X_MoO_U_OoM_X and Vote Washu!

Washu

04-17-04, 22:14

Chrome- i actually am kirby, lol.

And marth is just a basic vigilante, i wasnt told kill numbers, or anything similar to that.

Im inspectiong CHrome Moxen tonight, just so you know

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 22:15

Well how can you inspect than?

Zoobamaphooza

04-17-04, 22:15

Votes:
Washu - 5 (Viperdude, Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller, Chrome Moxen)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)

12 to kill

Moxen: Making fun of my name may get you autokilled ;)

Washu

04-17-04, 22:17

By becoming your character, i can drop marth at night, to get your character, i then know your abilities, and if your innocent or guilty.

Like bowser might be(god bless our soles) the doctor, then ill know he has a protection role, and he is good

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 22:20

Wait, if your a vigilante you cant inspect unless you say the inspecter's name, who you don't know. Or am I missing something? And you don't know my character:p

Btw: Zooby your name is to hard to spell. Can I call you Zoob?

Zoobamaphooza

04-17-04, 22:22

Btw: Zooby your name is to hard to spell. Can I call you Zoob?

Of course. That's what everybody calls me.

Washu

04-17-04, 22:24

Chrome
I have 2 choices, i can stay the character i am, until morning hits, then revert to normal kirby, or at night, revert to normal kirby

When i am normal kirby, at night i can chose someone, then i become there character, and know if they have "good or bad intentions"

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 22:26

So you would do it to me? Why me? Well I don't really care. For all you know I could be the other kirby:)

Washu

04-17-04, 22:28

I plan on inspecting you tonite, yes, i find you the most suspicious. Its nothing personal, you just attacked my fairly strong.

if your the other kirby, then tell me your full name

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 22:33

What if I don't want to? I attacked you because you were very suspicious with your Marth thing. Than you completely copied my words about kirby "I am a kirby, i believe there are 2 of us, we can pick a target once a night, and become their character. I chose (person) and i am marth until tonight. " Read post 50. Also you tell me your full name Kirby. If you do and it seems believable (sp) I will unvote you. Either way, you might not live to see who I am.

Washu

04-17-04, 22:37

I am Kirby B

which implies there is another kirby

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 22:38

Kirby B, that means nothing. Maybe its name is Kirby Brown or something. In that case my name is Kirby A. We are kirby friends hehe;)

Washu

04-17-04, 22:44

Ill check you out tonight,

Theory

I tell you who marth is, i clone him, you clone me

we keep cloning in the correct order

unlimited vig kills

Chrome, please unvote me, ill prove my innocense, and yours tomorrow

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 22:48

Im kidding I'm not kirby, or even closley related to that puffball. Well you seem nice so I will. But if your mean>:( Unvote Washu (hes getting cooler by the post!) and no votemoo washu.

BTW Where is everyone else?

Zoobamaphooza

04-17-04, 22:51

Stop Spamming! ;)

Votes:
Washu - 4 (Viperdude, Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller,)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)

Faydh, Netherskiver

04-17-04, 22:54

Moxen: I don't know if I truly trust your role. You could be any sort of mafia and claim Kirby A. By Washu claiming B which I can believe, you can easily say A. I'm just kinda suspicious...

My speculation on DK: He could be some sort of SK or vigilante maybe with the throwing of the barrels. I believe Washu enough not to vote for him, and I'm only suspicious of Moxen's claim.

Washu

04-17-04, 22:56

Zoob- who's spamming

I know, for most of the mafia games ive drawn up, for themed ones, ive made the characters not fit goodness. I could see a setup somewhat like this
Family 1
Bowser
Mario
Lugi
Peach

Family 2
Ganon
Link
Zelda
???

SK:2
Falcon
Samus

Vig: 2
Roy
Marth

Inspector 2
Kirby A
Kirby B

Doctor 2
Dr mario
???

Vanilla's:
Zoobamaphooza

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 22:59

Silly Faydh, I only said that because Washu said B:p I will vote for Vote: Stax he hasn't said much...

Highroller

04-17-04, 23:00

Exactly, Highroller. Solid logic. Which is the exactreason we should all role claim.

No, it's the exact reason we SHOULDN'T all roleclaim. Our role names are meaningless, and to freely spout out our abilities is nothing short of handing the mafia a grocery list.

FOS: Chrome Moxen for acting like an idiot. He's dangerously bordering on the "Phanto" level.

Faydh: The SK is already dead. Why would there be two SKs? Moreover, why wouldn't there be two people dead tonight, unless everyone targetted Verbal? I assume Verbal's kill didn't work, either because he forgot to PM or because he was killed and the mafia kill takes priority, but what about Donkey Kong's kill?

I forget, is Donkey Kong the one in Donkey Kong the arcade game, or Donkey Kong Country? Not like it really matters, as I don't think identities are in any way attached to roles, but...

Washu:

[b]Family 1
Bowser
Mario
Lugi
Peach

Family 2
Ganon
Link
Zelda
???

SK:2
Falcon
Samus

Vig: 2
Roy
Marth

Inspector 2
Kirby A
Kirby B

Doctor 2
Dr mario
???

Vanilla's:
Zoobamaphooza

Family 1 and Family 2? What the heck? Are you saying there's 8 mafia?

Washu

04-17-04, 23:03

HR- im saying its possible there are 2 families, and those characters would fit the families. I always plan ahead, bigger than normal

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 23:04

Whats the phanto level? Did I miss something?

Also might I point this out:

in Super Smash, know one is good nor evil. YOu cant choose whats good or evil, because they are all the same. In other games they might be good or bad, but not in Super Smash. So if Zoob is basing it off Super Smash than their would be no good or evil. BUt if he is basing it off the games where their from than that would change everything completely. Understand?

Faydh, Netherskiver

04-17-04, 23:04

He means that you're posting every other post.

I'll take back my suspicion of Chrome Moxen. While I was posting, you guys made more posts...

I wonder if there are generic Townies. It seems like everyone could have a role. I think that if things are going to be grouped from a game, they would be in a Mason group.

Highroller: Perhaps the first night, Samus had to charge up. I remember zoobamaphooza saying that it took a night to charge up for the kill.

It depends if the DK is from DK jr. where he is fighting Mario or DK country where he is the good guy. I don't know anything about Melee so I'm really not sure.

Viperdude

04-17-04, 23:16

unvote Washu, Vote Chrome Moxen. He seems to be acting pretty weird, and I believe LYL right now.

Highroller

04-17-04, 23:17

HR- im saying its possible there are 2 families, and those characters would fit the families. I always plan ahead, bigger than normal

... No, you're just being illogical. What you're saying is that there are 10 anti-town roles in one game, and they are all conveniently arranged in packages depending on their respective games. That's absolute bull. There's no way in hell the town would ever be able to win.

Faydh: Hrm... Actually, I had forgotten about that. That's a good point. Perhaps this charging up theme works for others as well?

Well, I know I'm a generic town (it's sad, I feel so left out from all the action... Crying on the inside...) so it's likely there will be others.

Phanto

04-17-04, 23:18

role names are meaningless

Probably. If so, why are you so opposed to my plan of having everyone name claim? If names are really meaningless then why oppose everyone knowing everyone's name?

Zooma must have some rational behind his choosing.

I think NAMES are important.

Chrome Moxen

04-17-04, 23:21

Viper: Wierd? How so?

Phanto: Yah, I agree with you

And if their are two kirby's than one of the players would be knocked off the list

25 characters = 25 players

2 kirby's = -1 character :0

Arg[y]veDawnshooter

04-17-04, 23:21

Wow. A lot of posting. Little knowledge. Anyone else thing that Chrome and Washu are in this together? I wouldn't be surprised, it's not an uncommon mafia strategy.

Otherwise, I think I'll Vote: Phanto. I doubt he's mafia, but just as in Dominaria, I think we're better off with him gone.:(

Faydh, Netherskiver

04-17-04, 23:26

Phanto: You know something... I thought just saying names would be a good half-roleclaim in Simpsons Mafia not knowing that it was a usual helper of the Mafia. I wouldn't suggest doing that.

I had really thought you were joking. I figured you would have the experience of prior games behind you and you would have to be kidding to do that. I feel sad being wrong though...

Highroller

04-17-04, 23:34

Probably. If so, why are you so opposed to my plan of having everyone name claim? If names are really meaningless then why oppose everyone knowing everyone's name?

Zooma must have some rational behind his choosing.

I think NAMES are important.

Oh, I thought you meant roleclaim our abilities. Right. As to stating our names:

1) It won't help us any.
2) Assume the mafia have "good guy" identities. Our preoccupation with these names will prevent us from searching out the right people.
3) Assume a town has a "bad guy" identity. I feel sorry for Ganondorf or Bowser if they are townie identities.
4) Assume Mario's mafia and Luigi's a town. If both have claimed, and we kill Mario, then Luigi will be lynched subsequently. Right? After all the names must have some meaning.
5) I don't think Zooba had any rationale about his choosing. He simply assigned them. 27 characters, 25 people. Easy enough. He then assigned the roles. That's what I would have done.
6) If Washu's right (which I doubt) more than one person has the same character name. We could all be the freaking Kirby team and no one would be able to know the difference.

So it would be useless at best or destructive at worst.

Zoobamaphooza

04-17-04, 23:35

Votes:
Washu - 3 (Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller,)
Stax Reborn - 2 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X, Chrome Moxen)
Chrome Moxen - 1 (Viperdude)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Phanto - 1 (zombie sharpshooter)

Viperdude

04-17-04, 23:46

I just thought, maybe the mafia is the Kirby's that you fight. You never know though.

And I'll come out and say that I am also a generic townie. That's why I said I don't like my role. Quite a change from my past roles which were all quite interesting.

Phanto

04-18-04, 00:02

Alright.

I can't resist any longer.

I am Fox. I am good. I am an inspector.

I have inspected Highroller. He is evil. His role is Falco.

Vote HighRoller

Anyway, I hope this game stays above being a race between the mafia and the inspector :/. That would take a lot of fun out of the process.

Mr Brown

04-18-04, 00:04

Everyone revealing their roles is definitely not a good idea. If Zoobamaphooza based town/mafia alignment on the characters themselves, then it would be much too easy for the town to mass roleclaim and discover who the mafia are.

I'm going to point a Finger of Suspicion at zombie sharpshooter. If anyone is being disruptive, it's Washu and Chrome Moxen, who are posting much more frequently than they need to.

My vote stands on Washu, his behaviour and spam-filled post make it very difficult to find out what he's trying to say.

Washu

04-18-04, 00:05

phanto- so kirby and fox as inspectors, cool
Vote HR

Lets get to night

Stax Reborn

04-18-04, 00:05

Dammit! I log off cause the site goes down, and now from the looks of things stuff came right back up... :(

Now it looks like Im just a bandwagoning person, but I gotta go with Chrome Moxen on this one... I was going to before hand, but as i said site was down(DAMN YOU RUMOR MILL!! :D )

Now Im gonna go reread the votes for me and see if there was ANY justification.. :p

Hatredboy77

04-18-04, 00:05

I think we should just leave Washu out of todays lynching. Maybe we could re-evaluate him on Day 2 and also hear (we can listen to posts??) what he has to say. For not, I dunno. My usual strat for day 1 is to vote for the annoying guy, which is washu (hehe). Ehh... Moxen is getting annoying too. If you have nothing else to vote for, get rid of the annoying people. (this is a joke, lighten up)

I actually have no clue who to vote for. In fact, I really dont care, cuz my role is crap (townie) and I shouldn't be a townie with this role. BAH. (lol, I even complained to Zoob)

Another thing.. I still dont understand why Luigi or Mario would be evil... they are only the biggest super-heroes ever created...

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 00:08

Votes:
Washu - 3 (Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller,)
Stax Reborn - 2 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X, Chrome Moxen)
Chrome Moxen - 2 (Viperdude, Stax Reborn)
Highroller - 2 (Washu, Phanto)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Phanto - 1 (zombie sharpshooter)

Play nice kids

Hatredboy77

04-18-04, 00:08

I know I'm not supposed to be double-posting, but so much happened in a matter of 3 minutes.

I vote HighRoller . I tend to believe someone if they have "pinged" the person and are 100% sure they are mafia.

Viperdude

04-18-04, 00:11

Now I'm thinking Zombie Sharpshooter and Highroller are mafia. Either they are both mafia, or town. If we lynch HR, if they are mafia we should look at ZS, if not we kill Phanto. unvote Chrome, vote Highroller.

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 00:14

Votes:

Highroller - 4 (Washu, Phanto, Hatredboy77, Viperdude)
Washu - 3 (Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller,)
Stax Reborn - 2 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X, Chrome Moxen)
Chrome Moxen - 1 (Stax Reborn)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Phanto - 1 (zombie sharpshooter)

Faydh, Netherskiver

04-18-04, 00:15

Vote: Highroller.

What I remember from starfox, falco was part of the starfox team. He was good even if annoying (which highroller is not). I think this just goes to show that names maybe can't be trusted. Although perhaps the "jerk" factor of Falco keyed into him being Mafia.

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 00:16

Votes:

Highroller - 5 (Washu, Phanto, Hatredboy77, Viperdude, Faydh, Netherskiver)
Washu - 3 (Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller,)
Stax Reborn - 2 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X, Chrome Moxen)
Chrome Moxen - 1 (Stax Reborn)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Phanto - 1 (zombie sharpshooter)

12 to kill

Viperdude

04-18-04, 00:17

I think who you are determining you being good/bad is misleading. I believe my character was actually an enemy/boss in a game. (It's not like I'm revealing some awesome role, I'm ability-less).

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 00:17

Im here defending Highroller because this is possibly incorrect info. As you know Fox and Falco are on the same side. Fox is nice, Falco a bit grumpy, but still both good. They are practicly the same. In SSBM They are the same!!! But anyway's Unvote Stax, Vote Highroller I might as well hop on the bandwaggon. And I will stop posting as frequently as i did.

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 00:22

Votes:

Highroller - 6 (Washu, Phanto, Hatredboy77, Viperdude, Faydh, Netherskiver, Chrome Moxen)
Washu - 3 (Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller,)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)
Chrome Moxen - 1 (Stax Reborn)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Phanto - 1 (zombie sharpshooter)

12 to kill
*dances*

AniX

04-18-04, 00:39

Well, I'm checking in. I'm also really confused.

Anyway, the role claim I am about to make might make me seem like I am a out of my mind nutjob who wants the mafia to win, and while the part about the nutjobing might be true, the role claim will help the town if everything works out well. If I live by tommorow morning, my mission has failed and you might as well kill me, as my role is useless. If my plan works out well, I will be dead, but there will also be a suprise for you that money. Just let me live tonight, and I swear you can kill me tommorow if I don't die tonight.

I am Roy.
Once per game, I may kill a player, day or night. However, I have a weakness that goes towards my "dead in the morning" thing. I will not tell you, because then the plan will fail. Just trust me, I will deliver the town a gift tommorow or I'm useless to the town and you may kill me tommorow.

CRiX

04-18-04, 00:52

Hey.. umm, yeah I'll stick with the inspector on this one, it's the way to go on day one, let's just hop that there is a doctor... and such, which seeing as Dr. Mario would be such an obvious character, there will be..

I don't like these sort of Day 1's.. but it's the best we got atm. As long as there's no chance Fox is insane O.o.

Anyway, vote: Highroller pending defense.

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 00:52

I think i know what you mean AniX. Because Roy takes damage with his fully powered attack. And thats like this. You kill someone but kill yourself in return. Just like in the game (exept you dont kill yourself just lotsa dmg)

reedofalethia

04-18-04, 01:00

BIG FAT FAT FOS on Washu. TWO KIRBIES??? Kirby A and B?? sounds more like "roleclaim kirby but ill cover my tracks" to me. kirby's innate ability is also extremely obvious, making him a good target to be fake-roleclaimed as(so original doesnt get suspicious). Yeah, I know there are kirby teams. Thats why its an FOS.

Anix: so.... Im not sure if telling us NOT to kill you at this time was a smart move, as the chances of that were extremely unlikely. Me guess you charge up one night, then suicide yourself on a random mafia the following night? thats what seems logical.

id vote highroller, but I dont want him to be the first to die during the day twice in a row =| (town mafia)

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 01:02

Votes:

Highroller - 7 (Washu, Phanto, Hatredboy77, Viperdude, Faydh, Netherskiver, Chrome Moxen, CRiX)
Washu - 3 (Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller,)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)
Chrome Moxen - 1 (Stax Reborn)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Phanto - 1 (zombie sharpshooter)

12 to kill

Highroller

04-18-04, 01:22

Hrm... Well, that sucks. I can't understand why anyone would go kamikaze to get me killed. Maybe if I was Ryo0oki, but I don't see myself as THAT big of a threat. This is really quite unprecedented. I won't bother to post any elaborate defense, as Phanto will be lynched tomorrow regardless.

However, in the interests of self-preservation, I'm struggling to see if there's any way I can get out of this alive. Obviously there's no way I can motivate you all to vote Phanto as you won't believe me until I'm dead, nor can I really blame you. If I were in this position I would surely vote myself. Therefore, the best I can do is continue to vote Washu and hopefully persuade enough people to do so in turn.

reedofalethia: That's awfully decent of you, but don't worry about it. If I'm mafia, you'll have killed a mafia. If I'm not mafia, you'll get a mafia tomorrow. You'd really be a fool not to vote me.

I suppose I may as well roleclaim. I am Link. So Phanto was way off. My guess is that he chose some random role from Melee that wasn't from Smash Bros. to minimize the odds of it being taken already. Don't ask why the hell LINK is a generic town. Ask Zoob.

I would recommend the town vote for me, as it is in all of your best interests. The sooner I'm revealed innocent, the sooner you can get around to lynching Phanto.

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 01:26

...High I know your not Link he isn't a generic town. Don't lie, please. Stands

Highroller

04-18-04, 01:27

...High I know your not Link he isn't a generic town. Don't lie, please. Stands

And you'd know this how?

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 01:31

I have my ways, can't tell you just yet, but I know your not just a normal townie.

Highroller

04-18-04, 01:32

I have my ways, can't tell you just yet, but I know your not just a normal townie.

So you're claiming that you're Link, is that it? :rolleyes: Is there a Link A and a Link B in this game too?

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 01:33

No, I'm not link. But I don't wanna keep posting like this but I have my ways. Case closed untill later. Ill tell you before you get lynched;).

Phanto

04-18-04, 01:42

Well done, Highroller. Best defense possible out of you.

Do we have any vigs who are willing to daykill him? Who should I inspect? Any ideas?

Hatredboy77

04-18-04, 01:46

I would suggest you ping someone random and someone who is staying low

Well, now two people are sure that HighRoller is mafia. Too bad for him. Vote stands. Sorry to see you go HR, I respect your work with mafia games

This Kirby A and B stuff... I smell something fishy. Ironic that he cant prove the role until A comes forth. Something isnt right here...

reedofalethia

04-18-04, 01:50

Damnit, why did i trust you?

Vote Highroller

I am Link. -_- is that crazy or what?

Highroller

04-18-04, 02:02

Damnit, why did i trust you?

Vote Highroller

I am Link. -_- is that crazy or what?

... And I just got you to roleclaim. In addition, apparently you are not an ordinary town, and you're not someone the doctor will be likely to protect. Therefore, if you are Link, you'll more likely than not be dead tomorrow. Moreover, Chrome Mox knows this too, and therefore is also someone likely to be picked off. :devious:

I lied. I'm actually Ness, and am the doctor for this game. *In retrospect, I really should have claimed this first*

Warblade

04-18-04, 02:11

Lying is not a good thing to do in Mafia. So you claim one role and then you say "oops, sorry, I'm actually this?" Sorry, that's not gonna work for me.

Vote for Highroller

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 02:23

How is ness a doctor? And its Chrome Moxen, not Mox.

Charlo0oki

04-18-04, 03:59

For the benefit of the doubt, I'm only going to FoS: Highroller rather than vote. I don't see how getting people to claim this early helps the town. Especially if you're the doctor. My next post will change to a vote unless you have a good reason. But until then, it'll just be an FoS to give you a chance to reply.

X_MoO_U_OoM_X for being my brother.

One of the best reasons for a vote I've seen in awhile:D:p

I don't think there's A & B roles since I'm pretty sure there were 25 (or so) different playable characters in SSBM. It'd be kinda strange though if the giant hands were in here though:D

Highroller

04-18-04, 08:01

How is ness a doctor? And its Chrome Moxen, not Mox.

PSI Magnet of course. I just absorb the attacks right through.

Gnoom

04-18-04, 09:47

Gah... very funny. Vote Highroller. Although I am Highly suspicious of Chrome Moxen and Washu, best idea is to get rid of our mafia first. Phanto, might I suggest you inspect Washu? Because he really isn't making sense...

Dementia Blader

04-18-04, 10:00

I think Highroller is the best lead we have, but id like a vote count before I cast mine.

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 10:42

Why does everyone think I'm suspicious? Constant posting with Washu was an arguement. How does that show mafia-ness?

Thanks Arcane;)

Washu

04-18-04, 11:00

Anix-

Nah, dont counter-attack, it wont work correctly,they are going to go for me, as phanto will be protected. (i assume this because phanto is the "better" player)

Viperdude

04-18-04, 11:03

I actually believe Phanto may be insane and HR is actually a townie. So here's what I think we should do.

If HR is mafia: Phanto should ping ZS or someone else who seems like Mafia
If HR is town: Phanto should ping me, and then he can prove if he is a inspector, also he could most likely see if he is Insane, Paranoid, etc.

Lone Warrior

04-18-04, 11:03

Hmmm... from what I've read, Highroller is definetely mafia. Switching role-claims, and possibly lying about both is just stupid. Vote Highroller.

And FoS on Chrome Moxen and Washu. Something is up between those two and I possibly don't know what... but their sudden 180 flip makes me very suspicious of whats going on.

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 11:10

Maybe this isnt SSBM maybe the original for N64 and having some characters that arn't playable (Master hand, Metal mario, etc...) So in that case he would most definatley (sp) be lieing, which for be a big target for mafia or maybe he is mafia trying to trick people. Your crazy Washu

I did? How so? And a melee is like close combat (or thats what I think) so that doesn't mean anything.

Washu your dumb

Yes, does that matter? No. It doesn't But if it was normal still lotsa people would still be in their like link, samus, and cpt falcon. Less players. But than their are 25 people...:|. I dont know. Im going to post what I think each role does cause i have nothing better to do.

Good Bad Normal
Bowser - Mafia
Captain Falcon - Sk / Mafia
Donkey Kong - Not sure.
Dr. Mario - Doctor Ability
Falco Lombardi - Same effect as Cloud
Fox McCloud - Vigilante maybe (he has a gun)
Ganondorf - Mafia
Ice Climbers - May team up with other Ice dude
Jigglypuff - May deactivate one persons abilility for a day (sleep)
Kirby - Sk / Vigilante / Town
Link - Use sword somehow
Luigi - Teams up with mario (Brothers)
Mario - same as luigi
Marth - Mason of some sort
Mewtwo - Mafia
Mr. Game & Watch -Townie
Ness - ?
Peach - ?
Pichu - Deputy - inherits pikachu's role (hes teh baby of pikachu)
Pikachu - Vigi?
Roy - Mason with Marth
Samus Aran - Sk (DEAD)
Yoshi - ?
Young Link - deputy for Link
Zelda - ?

Washu. I KNEW IT! I KNEW YOU WERE KIRBY!!!! HAVE YOU SEEN MY POSTS ABOUT HOW YOU CAN SAY A NAME AND BE HIM! OR MAYBE YOUR JUST LYING EITHER WAY I KNEW IT HAHAHAHAHA! Whats Marth's ability?

I didn't finish my list cuz i needed to go so my bro just posted with ?'s.

I will finish it now:

Ness - Some psychic effect (Pk thunder inactivity perhaps)
Peach - Can't trust her. She was taken by bowser and DK....
Yoshi - Uses some egg ability of some sort
Zelda - Can change into Shiek. Maybe a normal townie than a vigi or whatnot.

reed: Maybe you are right. Looks can be decieving. Maybe Zoombamaphooza (or whatever that silly name is ;)) was being tricky and used Peach as a bad guy because after all she did spend all that time with bowser, AND Dk.

If Dk is bad whats his ability? Normal mafia?

w00 that took a while.washu you copie cat

Ha you fools thought I was saying its ok for Washu to be kirby?!?!? Hell no. He just copied what i said... Look HAHAHAHAHA I QUOTE MYSELF "But than their is Kirby. That sly piece of pink dough (perhaps) could suck in anyone's power. Perhaps Washu is kirby, and he needs to say his targets character (He said Marth, maybe now hes a kirby marth) but their are many possibilities." Post # 50. Read it and weep!got you now boy, I got you now

Unvote X_MoO_U_OoM_X and Vote Washu!

Well how can you inspect than?

Wait, if your a vigilante you cant inspect unless you say the inspecter's name, who you don't know. Or am I missing something? And you don't know my character:p

Btw: Zooby your name is to hard to spell. Can I call you Zoob?

So you would do it to me? Why me? Well I don't really care. For all you know I could be the other kirby:)

What if I don't want to? I attacked you because you were very suspicious with your Marth thing. Than you completely copied my words about kirby "I am a kirby, i believe there are 2 of us, we can pick a target once a night, and become their character. I chose (person) and i am marth until tonight. " Read post 50. Also you tell me your full name Kirby. If you do and it seems believable (sp) I will unvote you. Either way, you might not live to see who I am.

Kirby B, that means nothing. Maybe its name is Kirby Brown or something. In that case my name is Kirby A. We are kirby friends hehe;)

Those are most of my posts from page 2, now whats wrong with em?

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 11:22

Votes:

Highroller - 11 (Washu, Phanto, Hatredboy77, Viperdude, Faydh, Netherskiver, Chrome Moxen, CRiX, reedofalethia, Warblade, Gnoom, Lone Warrior)
Washu - 3 (Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller,)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)
Chrome Moxen - 1 (Stax Reborn)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Phanto - 1 (zombie sharpshooter)

12 to kill

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 11:27

Unvote High, Vote Washu Both look evil to me. But Washu is more of a tricky fella.

Washu

04-18-04, 11:33

Ok, im voting Chrome Moxen first thing in the morning

Here is why:

First, he says he knows HR is not Link, and that Link is not a normal Townie-
How does he know this?
Second, He votes Him
Ok, Good
Third, He UNVOTES him, after he is almost damned, so we can find out who is right, and votes me
WTF??? that makes no sense, please explain yourself on this action Moxen

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 11:37

What action? Unvoting highroller? I actually did it because I want more than like the 10 of us posting on the first day. I could be cruel and just get it over with after one more vote. Meh by Highroller Unvtoe Wash vote High firt vote in the mornin (if im alive) goes to washu.

AND I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY

----------------------
If im dead in the morning it's either because of Mafia, X_MoO or Washu

I say X_MoO Because he wants me dead (he's my brother and all) and Washu because I know he's not a kirby.

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 11:38

Votes:

Highroller - 10 (Washu, Phanto, Hatredboy77, Viperdude, Faydh, Netherskiver, CRiX, reedofalethia, Warblade, Gnoom, Lone Warrior)
Washu - 4 (Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller, Chrome Moxen)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)
Chrome Moxen - 1 (Stax Reborn)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Phanto - 1 (zombie sharpshooter)

12 to kill

Stax Reborn

04-18-04, 11:39

Phanto, if you ARE the inspector, Id say investigate Chrome. He checks this thread WAY to often, posts WAY to often, and seems to like starting bandwagons away from 1-2 people he defends.. :slant: Im just not sure about him..

Highroller

04-18-04, 11:40

I guess I probably should offer an apology for my past behavior. At first I thought I was going to roleclaim a generic role with a character that could, in theory, have one. Link was the first one that came to mind. I probably should have chosen Mario or Jigglypuff or something, but I was desperate, and with someone like Ness, you expect them to have some kind of power. Desperate times call for desperate measures. But since there seems to be a slackening in the flow of voting Highroller (watch as everyone votes Highroller immediately after saying that), possibly meaning I might come through this alive, I probably should take this back. Yes, I am indeed Ness the doctor. I said I was a generic town because I'm wasn't going to say, "I'm Ness the doctor," without trying everything else first, one because I'm a doctor and two because everyone would lynch me as soon as I said I was Ness. I mean, I'd be pissed off... If I had a dime for every time I was PK Thundered...

Right now I'm not sure what to make of Chrome Moxen. I'm still leaning more towards idiotic than actual threat, but recent events lead me to question this. Especially that last post. So either Moxen is our resident version of Monk (an insane detective for those who don't watch the show), or he's mafia. Regardless he knows more than he's telling us, but I'm still keeping my vote on Washu, whom I find the far more suspicious of the two.

Washu

04-18-04, 11:42

Moxen- yes, actually I am a kirby.

Who are you then, moxen
Here are the obvious possibilites

Lugi
Maro
Roy
(I know he is not marth, someone else is)

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 11:51

Washu: I'll give you a hint: No, No, and No.

Highroller: Who cares if you say my playing style is idiotic... it works! I won a mafia game being a vigilante doing these exact things.... so you better watch out

Highroller

04-18-04, 11:54

Highroller: Who cares if you say my playing style is idiotic... it works! I won a mafia game being a vigilante doing these exact things.... so you better watch out

So you're a vigilante in this game too I take it? If so, you wouldn't happen to be Mewtwo would you?

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 12:09

*

Sorry bub I'm not mewtwo. I might be a vigilante, you never know. You better watch out washu;) Highroller whats your real role? Ness? If it is were screwed if not, tiz ok. But I can't believe you. *cough*vote highroller everyone*cough*

--Link where I won wid crap logic--

http://forums.mtgnews.com/showthread.php?t=143480

go me!

Stax Reborn

04-18-04, 12:09

Yeah, ok Moxen....

Whats wrong with those posts? First your for one person, then another.. First seemingly allied with Washu, then suddenly against him... Just a little TOO erratic for the usual town player..

Viperdude

04-18-04, 12:12

How do you know Washu isn't Kirby? How did you know HR wasn't Link? Do you know who I am?

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 12:27

No, I don't know who you are. Wahsu was saying just what i said about Kirby i thought either im a good guesser or he's just copying me. Look at the resemblence in the posts. And Link isn't a normal townie. Simple as that.

Hatredboy77

04-18-04, 12:56

Phanto is saying HR is mafia and HR is saying he is Ness, but before he said he was Link. I think that HR is just yelling out random names to get the real Link or Ness to come forward. I still believe in Phanto (OMG, what am I saying)

Vote stands

Washu

04-18-04, 12:58

Just so we have this straight, any doctors, protect phanto, he is the better one of the two of us to have, ill be dead tomorrow, because the mafia wont want 2 inspectors running around, and trying to nail phanto will be hard

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 13:02

well, I know that HighRoller wasn't generic because I am [color=cool]Young Link[/coolcolor] well, i didnt know about washu and that i was calling his bluff. young links ability is that i inherit links ability when he's dead. implying that he HAS an ability.

as for my stupid playing style... live with it. not everyone can have over 100 iq, ya know!

Washu

04-18-04, 14:15

Chrome- mines 130ish

I could actually see link as a vig, but so many of these roles are like that. I would think sheik could avoid nightkills, or be a doctor. But link, all i could think he does, is possibly day kill

reedofalethia

04-18-04, 14:24

130ish is normal for an educated high school teen.
and Im not a vigilante.

Moxen: Your theory on what Kirby's power was is not unique. Almost anyone would guess that.

Faydh, Netherskiver

04-18-04, 14:49

Unvote Highroller I can see why he roleclaimed something he thought would be a basic Townie. It's better for the doctor if the Mafia thinks he is a basic townie or doesn't know his role. Look at Feudal Mafia. Vecna roleclaimed Doctor first night and got recruited by the Mafia. Now Highroller's going to have to self-protect at night so the Mafia doesn't kill him on nights when they would want to. That means he runs the risk of dying when he wants/needs to protect someone important.

Vote: Moxen You seem maybe too insightful for a basic Townie til Big Link dies...

Phanto

04-18-04, 14:50

Faydh: Highroller is mafia. He is falco. He is not Ness. Kill him.

Lone Warrior

04-18-04, 14:54

Unvote Highroller. Once he explained himself, I understood.

Vote Chrome Moxen. His schizo Phanto-like postings point to Mafia now. The fact that he has to post every time someone accuses him of something show Mafia-like tendancies.

Phanto

04-18-04, 14:56

:eek!:

I have inspected Highroller. Inspected. He is mafia. Kill him.

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 15:04

Votes:

Highroller - 8 (Washu, Phanto, Hatredboy77, Viperdude, CRiX, reedofalethia, Warblade, Gnoom,)
Washu - 4 (Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller, Chrome Moxen)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)
Chrome Moxen - 3 (Stax Reborn, Faydh, Netherskiver, Lone Warrior)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Phanto - 1 (zombie sharpshooter)

12 to kill

Washu

04-18-04, 15:08

Phanto- I guess your crazy actions havent been crazy enough for people to trust you in this game

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 15:08

Why don't you belivie im young link? Zoob can i quote you from your PM? How am I being insightful?vote high.... You want proof? Phanto if im not lynched inspect who I am, or that kirby dude transform into me and tell everyone who I am. I'm Young Link, why is it so hard to believe that?

reed: I know:)

Faydh: Don't you believe me?
Lone: Thats my style of playing... You know im a horrible mafia player...

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 15:16

Chrome Moxen? Was that a vote? Please don't type in bold unless it's a vote.

Please don't quote PMs

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 15:22

ya "vote high" hence the vote... Can i summarize it?

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 15:24

Votes:

Highroller - 9 (Washu, Phanto, Hatredboy77, Viperdude, CRiX, reedofalethia, Warblade, Gnoom, Chrome Moxen)
Washu - 3 (Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)
Chrome Moxen - 3 (Stax Reborn, Faydh, Netherskiver, Lone Warrior)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Phanto - 1 (zombie sharpshooter)

12 to kill

Just don't quote it please.

CrovaxtheCursed

04-18-04, 15:26

Jeez, this game has gone back and forth a lot.

For now, I will Vote Highroller. But if he ISN'T Mafia (which I think there is little chance of), there will be a LOT of lynching.

I will also FoS Washu. I just can't buy that Kirby explanation. If somebody could inspect him to confirm, THEN I might buy it.

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 15:32

Votes:

Highroller - 10 (Washu, Phanto, Hatredboy77, Viperdude, CRiX, reedofalethia, Warblade, Gnoom, Chrome Moxen, CrovaxtheCursed)
Washu - 3 (Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)
Chrome Moxen - 3 (Stax Reborn, Faydh, Netherskiver, Lone Warrior)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Phanto - 1 (zombie sharpshooter)

12 to kill

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 15:35

Kk. My PM PARAPHRASED (NOT QUOTED) I wont format it

role: young link im good

special abilities get links abilities when he dies

goal: mafia are all dead

Shadowlord

04-18-04, 15:56

Highroller does seem suspicious...
well after reading all this long conversation i will vote Highroller and point a FoS at Chrome Moxen

X_MoO_U_OoM_X

04-18-04, 16:01

first off, we have two obvious mafia: Phanto and Chrome Moxen.

FOS Highroller, just in case, cause lying never really helps anyone. LIARS HEARTS ARE BLACK LIKE POO!

Chrome Moxen just plays... so much like me when I first started playing mafia. Almost exactly like me in my first game, where I was mafia. What was that saying? "Like brother like... umm.. brother." Whatever. Secondly, Phanto is very infamous for his kerrazy stunts. Just look at his sig... I think this stunt, however, crossed the thin line between genius and idiocy. With that, I will Vote Chrome Moxen, cause he IS my brother, and he is hella annoying. GEEZ. After Chrome, we lynch Phanto day two. Two mafia, days 1 and 2. Easy town win :D

Phanto

04-18-04, 16:04

O....M...F-ing God!

You're crazy, X_Moo. Failing anyone else presenting him or herself, I'm investigating you. I hope you're really not this stupid.

X_MoO_U_OoM_X

04-18-04, 16:18

lol. *thinks of some witty thing to say... fails*
Well.. the only way you could investigate me is in your dreams... BECAUSE YOU'RE MAFIA! OH SNAP!

seriously, the gig is up, dude.

reedofalethia

04-18-04, 16:31

if hughroller is townie we lynch phanto tomorrow, x moo.

Seriously, are you high or something? =|

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 16:54

I think he is!!! Your a genius reed!!!! X_MoO and high are partners in crime! Reed are you really link? X_MoO I will keep my vote with High but than your next!!!!! muahahahaha you know he isnt ness!!!! you will vote for him

[quote=X_MoO_U_OoM_X]Vote High look at that proof! he wants him dead!stupid fake quote

Also X_MoO wants me dead. Strange for i am young link, a simple townie. HE WANTS ME DEAD WITH PHANTO who is an inspector according to his claim!!!! SO HE IS EVIL! here my logic: we lynch High, in the mornin im dead (X_MoO did it) and if High's mafia than we kill X_MoO but if hes not we kill phanto, and leave me alone howz about that?

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 17:19

You guys appear to have gone very, very insane.

Votes:

Highroller - 11 (Washu, Phanto, Hatredboy77, Viperdude, CRiX, reedofalethia, Warblade, Gnoom, Chrome Moxen, CrovaxtheCursed, Shadowlord)
Washu - 3 (Mr Brown, Dementia Blader, Highroller)
Stax Reborn - 1 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X)
Chrome Moxen - 5 (Stax Reborn, Faydh, Netherskiver, Lone Warrior, X_MoO_U_OoM_X)
Dementia Blader - 1 (Gnoom)
Phanto - 1 (zombie sharpshooter)

12 to kill

Moxen: This is your last warning. Don't post in bold unless you're voting.

Chrome Moxen

04-18-04, 17:57

I am voting tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can you see it? TO i have to spell out highroller?.... i am voting in bold...?

Zoobamaphooza

04-18-04, 18:51

I am sorry. You are being very unclear with your votes. You do realize, however, that you had already voted for highroller.

Vote count stands as is.

Highroller

04-18-04, 19:53

Unvote Washu, Vote Chrome Moxen. His gameplay seems to deteriorate more and more with each post. I'll move Washu down to an FOS.

Seriously, is there some serious genetic defect in both X_MoO and Moxen? Because they are really acting bizarre.

Highroller

04-18-04, 19:55

Umm... Sorry for double posting, but this is kind of important. You see, Gnoom is voting twice, and one of those votes is on me. So is he voting for me or Dementia Blader? I'll delete this as soon as I get a reply.

X_MoO_U_OoM_X

04-18-04, 20:02

if hughroller is townie we lynch phanto tomorrow, x moo.

Seriously, are you high or something? =|

and let the mafia live another night. Righhtttt.....

@High - :(

I'm gonna go cry.

The genetic defect is only in Moxen, I tested clean. :smoker:

LoneWolf24

04-18-04, 21:32

This is insane. I go away for a weekend, 3 days, and the thread explodes. However, once I got to page 2 it was easy to see why... (Chrome and Washu bickering)

So many roleclaims already. And so many plots. There's a slight chance that Highroller and Phanto are in this together, kill one and the other gets cleared. I don't know what to think yet though. And I'm not even going to get started on the Kirby Theory yet.

How many people have yet to post?

Arg[y]veDawnshooter

04-18-04, 22:47

Not many, I believe.

Anyway, Unvote Phanto, vote Chrome Moxen. He knows too much, or at least claims too. Most of the evidence has aleady been said, anyway. And I'm still suspicious of Phanto, so FoS: Phanto.

Highroller: It's probably is something genetic.:rolleyes::p

Hatredboy77

04-18-04, 22:51

Stax Reborn

04-18-04, 23:24

Id also like to know how X Moo voted for Moxen without Unvoting for me..

In any case, Highroller seems like a really skilled mafia player, and I think itll be a shame to lose him first day... :( I really think we need to take down erratic folk like Moxen first

Highroller

04-18-04, 23:59

Hrm... No one's answered my question as to just how many votes there are on me.

I'm hesitant to ask this, as people in their desire to answer it might reveal too much. Don't respond to this, but is there a possibility that Phanto could be paranoid? It seems to be the only logical theory. Unless the mafia are THAT desperate to get rid of me, unlikely as I don't think they could have any way of identifying roles, this seems to be the only thing that makes sense. I don't believe Phanto to be mafia, despite how logical he's been acting (... Never thought I'd say that :confuse2: ;) ) , as no mafia would take that big a risk. Maybe on a later day when the lynching of a crucial role would net a win, but not on the first day towards a player that did not yet roleclaim. The way I see it, Phanto has to be innocent, and since no sane innocent would claim inspector and risk lynching a town when he did not know with absolute certainty that the person in question wasn't guilty, I think Phanto is paranoid.

CRiX

04-19-04, 00:14

Highroller

04-19-04, 00:31

Highroller- if by paranoid you mean insane (how I've always heard it referred as), meaning he gets the opposite results. I did mention that. However, I would think he could figure that out by his role name and such things, since it would at least make a small amount of sense.

Anyway, you're the best lead at the moment, except for crazy mister Moxen, he might be a better pick, but I'd rather go with the "inspector". ...

Ok, whatever, if Highroller is innocent the option for tomorrow is simple, umm, kill Phanto.. Otherwise we'll be able to listen to him, if they are setting something up, then his results will start to turn false/only innocents. Then it won't be too hard to figure out he's mafia too... or whatever.

yeah, hard to write a post while watching Aqua Teen Hunger Force.. -_-

Actually, there are different inspector statuses. The four most common are:

Normal: Self explanatory
Naive: Everyone's innocent
Paranoid: Everyone's mafia
Insane: Opposite results

I said paranoid instead of "insane" because that's usually used to imply any sort of disability, as they are not limited to that list, and Phanto's normally insane anyway, right? ;) Thing is I don't want to see Phanto killed, as I think he is an inspector with one of the above. I'm hesitant to propose this as it will sound suspicious as hell, but since I'm one vote away from lynching I guess I don't have a choice. CriX, what if I were to propose that you hold off your vote for me and vote Moxen today, and then wait tomorrow for Phanto's inspection? If it turns out innocent, you can hang me and I won't try to stop you, and you'll have an inspector for the rest of the game. If it turns out mafia, we'll know that the sheer odds of this feat will make it likely that Phanto's suffering from some sort of unusual disability. The way I see it, such a setup has no downside. There's no way the mafia's going to be able to get to Phanto, as I'll be protecting him, and I'm sure if there's another doctor in the game he'll say, "Well, I'm not sure if I should trust that Highroller, I'll protect Phanto too."

I realize my lengths to protect Phanto are incredibly suspicious, but the way I see it, even if Phanto is impaired, he's still worth more than Chrome Moxen is. I think we can all admit this. A dysfunctional inspector can still tell us who isn't mafia.

Chrome Moxen

04-19-04, 01:36

Ok, I question Moxen, but he is either a really talkative player on the good side or he is a TERRIBLE mafia. I am leaning towards the talkative player. In my opinion, I don't think mafia would act the way he does. Phanto has told us that he is an inspector and HighRoller is mafia. I say we lynch HighRoller, get more information tonight, and then decide on Moxen. So vote for HighRoller.

So why are you the only person who believes my role... I am young Link... if you fools cant learn that yet I might as well vote for my self. Ill prove to you idiots that im town. Get me to 11 votes and ill vote myself...*******s...

X_MoO_U_OoM_X

04-19-04, 02:42

wow, thomas, go and pull and ZONEACE...

"You're gonna lynch me... IDIOTS! YOU CAN'T WIN! YOU SUCK!"

It's that kind of abrasive playing style that will get you lynched.. with good reason. Now, settle down, and construct a defence. Use logic... (those in glass stones should not throw stones, I know)... but you're just acting like mafia. Now, Vote Stands on Moxen

@stax... Unvote Stax.. happy now? :D

Dementia Blader

04-19-04, 08:12

X_moo and Moxen either need to be inspected or take a drug test.
Kerrazy or not, I think phanto's right.
Vote Highroller

Highroller

04-19-04, 09:34

Hrm... Ok, that's not good... I don't suppose I could ask someone who's voting for me to please unvote for me really quickly? I'll give you a cookie.

X_MoO_U_OoM_X

04-19-04, 10:21

X_moo and Moxen either need to be inspected or take a drug test.
Kerrazy or not, I think phanto's right.
Vote Highroller
*cough, cough* MAFIA! *cough*

your first or second post is the last vote on a bandwagon started by an inspector who may or may not be insane... or should I say, paranoid.

Wow.

I'll leave the rest unsaid.

Gnoom

04-19-04, 10:31

I personally still believe Highroller is mafia. Assuming he is, I strongly suggest you inspect Chrome Moxen, Phanto :). And of course, that the doctor (assuming we didn't just lynch the doctor) protects Phanto.

Chrome Moxen

04-19-04, 10:37

:smoke:God's sake fools. I AINT MAFIA GET THAT THRU :smoke:YOUR TINY BRAINS, YOU CAN LYNCH :smoke:ME AND FIND OUT :smoke:OR KIRBY CAN FIND OUT OR PHANTO CAN, YOU IDIOTS WHY DONT YOU BELIEVE ME!?!?!?!?!?!?:smoke:

Paul, if anyones mafia its you. you claim highrollers innocent? well when he dies and is mafia you will be next! MUAHAHAHAHAHAH. inspect me not washu:smoke:

Warblade

04-19-04, 11:26

I'm not going to unvote Highroller as I'm 99% sure he is a Mafioso. Sorry Highroller, I'm going to have to decline on the offer of your cookie there. ;)

Zoobamaphooza

04-19-04, 13:58

Alright. Highroller is dead.

He was Falco. He was mafia.

It is now night two. Night people, you know what to do.

BTW: Tonight ends on wednesday at noon.

Zoobamaphooza

04-21-04, 12:15

Everyone wakes up and sees reedofalethia's body lying on the ground. They run over to him, and notice that he's wearing a funny green hat and has long pointy ears. reed was Link!. As the players get closer to him, a small golden triangle flies out of his hand, shatters into four parts, and each part flies to a different player, but nobody can tell who got a part.

But the melee must go on!

It is now day 2. Fight!

CRiX

04-21-04, 13:48

Well, first post today..

Just want to say that I don't think anything should be done until we hear something from out inspector people.

However, going against myself, I think it's odd that no one that role-claimed yesterday got killed last night, and also, it doesn't look like Link's powers got inherited by a certain one person either, which brings my attention to Young Link (though I'm going to have to read back to figure out who said they were him).

Anyway, glad to see the 'spector alive still. Let's get the verdict Phanto.

Gnoom

04-21-04, 14:45

Jikes... we don't get to know people's abilities when they die? That's pretty annoying.

Anyway, although it would somewhat stupid to do if he is mafia, XMoo's lasting defense of Highroller, even when it was really obvious that he was mafia, is really suspicious to me. I will wait to hear what Phanto has to say before I vote him, though.

Phanto

04-21-04, 16:04

I checked out a suspect of mine--townie.

We'll have to find the mafia by hand, this time.

Washu

04-21-04, 16:27

Im checking in as well.

I decided to keep marth last night, hoping the mafia would target me as him.

I just found out a restriction i have. I cannot kirby clone the same person 2 times. which means im probably dead in the morning, i doubt the mafia want 2 inspectiors running around for very long

Hatredboy77

04-21-04, 16:38

These are all the role claims:

5. Falco Lombardi- HighRoller
6. Fox McCloud- claimed by Phanto
10. Kirby- claimed by Washu
11. Link- Reed
21. Roy- claimed by Anix
22. Samus Aran- Verbal
24. Young Link- claimed by Moxen

I think the possible mafia guys are: Falco, Bowser, Mewtwo, Ganondorf, Falcon, DK. I think there are 5-6 mafia.

The triforce piece breaks and goes into four characters? I have a question ZOOB, do the people that got one KNOW if they got a piece? Also, did four random people get it or does it matter who they are?

If it just gave everyone Link's power, then Young Link isnt he only one who inherits the power. Something's going on...

Well, I really dont any good leads (I have suspition on a few people, but no evidence). I am open for opinions.

Washu

04-21-04, 16:40

who would get the pieces

Ganon
Young Link
Zelda
SHeik(if she is seperate)

Chrome Moxen

04-21-04, 18:12

Wait.. people arn't voting for me..? Everyone was voting for me yesterday? Well thats good:). Anyway Vote XMoo for standing up against HR.

X_MoO_U_OoM_X

04-21-04, 21:06

there are 25 charectares in SSBM. Washy claims that he had a kirby partner. This leaves out a charectar. WHAT? I don't know why no body pounced on that yesterday. If we had a perfect match-up for charectars and the like, why would he arbitrarily drop one?

And the fact you just 'happen' to 'inspect' the same person again...
vote washu

also, FOS Chrome - it appears Link didn't really have an ability, per se.

Washu

04-21-04, 21:13

I said i THINK i have a partner

Besides, this is prolly gonna get me lynched, but oh well

I am marth, not kirby, I did the kirby thing hoping the mafia would target me, because of my ability. Someone who is kirby has been uber patient, and i thank that person, which inclines me to believe kirby is pro town

Phanto

04-21-04, 21:14

We can figure out if Washu is mafia, something I suspect a LOT.

All washu has to do is tell us who Marth is.
Go ahead, Washu. Which person is Marth? Let us know.
If you can't tell us...you're mafia.

I don't believe it either, X_Moo. But if Washu is innocent, then I guess the suspicioun falls on you.

Washu

04-21-04, 21:16

I am Marth, i would guess my ability is very similar to roys-

Anix- do you have counter-attack?

Stax Reborn

04-21-04, 21:18

Hiya, Just posting to check in..

Again FoS to Chrome Moxen, I still dunno if I trust you man

CRiX

04-21-04, 21:31

Ok Washu, if you change again, don't expect to stick around for very long..

Very disconcerting that you turned up town, Phanto :( Make sure we don't go after them though.

Anyway, I would like some more info from Chrome about being Young Link. Can I get anything else about it? Please?

Mr Brown

04-21-04, 22:35

Keeping your role a secret until someone pointed a flaw in your previous roleclaim is very suspicious, Washu (posts #208 and #209). Not only that, but you base your blatant roleclaim and attempts to attract attention an attempt to get nightkilled. I fail to see your motives. I'm going to vote for Washu until you come up with a claim backed up by real information.

I'm also going to point a finger of suspicion at Chrome Moxen for saying that he's surprised that people aren't voting for him. If you are surprised by that, Chrome Moxen, you can keep it to yourself. Telling everyone else doesn't help you any.

Hatredboy77

04-21-04, 23:16

ok, well, I dont really understand why you lied but I could see something was wrong when you said kirby B. Unless another Marsh comes forward, I'm going to believe Washu for now.

Uh... I'm just gonna go ahead and vote for Mr Brown. Him voting for Washu yesterday might have been to save HighRoller and now he starts a bandwagon on Washu again. hmm... something tells me he is mafia

Hatredboy77

04-21-04, 23:19

Sorry, to double, but I looked back and saw that Xmoo started the voting today. I would vote for Xmoo, but my gut tells me Brown is more likely to be mafia than Xmoo. Maybe I'll change later after further review, but I'm going to bed now...

X_MoO_U_OoM_X

04-22-04, 00:35

Hatredboy... What? I don't get your logic.

@Phanto - yea, I understand that. But I'm pretty sure that Washu is mafia... don't lie about your role.. then suddenly change it when someone points something out. Case in point, Highroller Like MrBrown said. I don't want to get repetitive.

Chrome Moxen

04-22-04, 00:41

Hio Stax. Hio CRiX. Hio Mr Brown.

1: Stax: Ok.
2: CRiX: what would you like to know? Just ask away and ill say teh words of wisdom
3: Mr Brown: I say this because the day before everyone was voting for me, and know no one?

Phanto: Are you gonna say who you inspected? Why or why not?

CRiX

04-22-04, 00:47

I say Phanto shouldn't say who he inspected, simply because he doesn't need to unless that person is in trouble..

Ok, anyway, my question for you:

If you're Young Link- did you get all of Link power(s)? Because apparently there were 4 people getting stuff out of him.. O.o Just want some clarification about that, really.. did you say you would get all of his powers? because if so, that means that the "triforce" was something else..

Chrome Moxen

04-22-04, 00:53

My PM baisicly said: I have part of the Triforce now. If I get all the pieces i will become very powerful. This was adult link's ability.

That was my paraphrased PM. So im assuming thats all Adult link had to offer to me.

Btw why would people kill reed. They knew he was Link right? I believed him.

Vote stands

X_MoO_U_OoM_X

04-22-04, 01:21

WHAT? Thomas... isn't an ability something like inspector or doctor? This sounds made up.. FOS Moxen - however, Phanto alluded to inspecting one of his suspects, and they turned out to be innocent, and Thomas, you were a major suspect yesterday. So he might have inspected you... did you, Phanto? However.. the same applies for me :D.

Dementia Blader

04-22-04, 07:56

I will vote Xmoo for:

Originally Posted by Dementia Blader
X_moo and Moxen either need to be inspected or take a drug test.
Kerrazy or not, I think phanto's right.
Vote Highroller

*cough, cough* MAFIA! *cough*

your first or second post is the last vote on a bandwagon started by an inspector who may or may not be insane... or should I say, paranoid.

Wow.

I'll leave the rest unsaid.

Sounds like scum defending his fellows to me.

One thing that has been bothering me is: Who's the real Ness? If Ness were pro-town, he should have spoken up against Highroller. But he didn't. Which means:

A. Ness is anti-town
B. Ness didn't check the thread after 'roller claimed
C. Ness has a reason not to claim

Zoobamaphooza

04-22-04, 10:03

Votes:

Mr Brown - 1 (Hatredboy77)
X_MoO_U_OoM_X - 2 (Chrome Moxen, Dementia Blader)
Washu - 2 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X, Mr Brown)

BTW: Link did have an ability, however it only became active if he gained all of the triforce. His role was Link: If you obtain all of the triforce, you will become very powerful. I now realize I should have explained this when he died. My mistake. I'm very sorry.

Chrome Moxen

04-22-04, 10:34

Paul: No it isn't an inspecter or doctor. Look at my post (220) and look at the resemblence to Zoob's (223) so, yah. I told you fool! all vote for XMoo he needs to die!

CRiX

04-22-04, 10:38

The way you described your ability yesterday was very misleading, Moxen.

However, I do feel that X_MoO is looking suspicious (for all the reasons mentioned), but that *could* just be because he's ... "insane" or something.. Eh, I want to hear from other people before laying down my vote... I'm sure there are still people who haven't posted today.

Chrome Moxen

04-22-04, 10:55

XMoo is suspicious get him![/off to school] But if he isnt evil its my fault than for trying to bandwaggon right? but he is evil!

X_MoO_U_OoM_X

04-22-04, 11:06

I will vote Xmoo for:

Sounds like scum defending his fellows to me.

One thing that has been bothering me is: Who's the real Ness? If Ness were pro-town, he should have spoken up against Highroller. But he didn't. Which means:

A. Ness is anti-town
B. Ness didn't check the thread after 'roller claimed
C. Ness has a reason not to claim

and yet you can TOTALLY ignore both the Washu and the Moxen situations, while putting a bandwaggon vote on me. :rolleyes:

seems likes tacit consent with your fellow scum to me...

and on the whole Ness situation - Ness looks like he could qualify for being evil, being a pyshic child with fire powers. B is unlikely, and we could never guess C.

Wait, so Moxen is innocent? Did Zoob just confrim Thomas's innocence?

Stax Reborn

04-22-04, 13:11

Ok, yeah, now its certain. Moxen doesnt even let the day develop before blowing off the handle.

Vote Moxen

First off, Im 99% sure your mafia, plus even if we do lose a towny, at least are future votes wont be plagued by your insanity

LoneWolf24

04-22-04, 13:28

It seems pretty apparent that Moxen is telling the truth. Unless he and Zoob are involved in some complex scheme to confuse the hell out of the rest of us (which can never be completely discounted :)) how else would he know what Link's ability was? The only situation where he would have knowledge of that role is if the two of them were mafia together and shared their abilities. Or if they were in a mason group together. In either case, Moxen turns out to be a townie, because we know Link wasn't a mafia member. Even though he does contribute to the confusion, we shouldn't vote off Moxen.

I'm wary of Washu right now for switching his story, but I say we hold off voting for him as well.

X_MoO_U_OoM_X

04-22-04, 14:07

well, Moxen 'knew' the role because in the death scene of reed, it said something about a piece of the tri-force - one of four, if I am correct - he could've easeily guessed the role... but that might be giving him too much credit.

Stax Reborn

04-22-04, 14:07

He didnt guess... The triforce was mentioned in his death sequence. And isnt it kinda obvious that whoever holds the Triforce will be powerful? :D

Faydh, Netherskiver

04-22-04, 14:51

Why would the triforce be in 4 parts? There are 3 parts of the triforce in the game... Well not counting the original Legend of Zelda where there were quite a few. Supposing that all of the triforce pieces are collected by the remaining person, what would happen. I don't really know who to vote for. I'm hesitant to vote for X_MoO because he is a satanist and seems kinda crazy all the time. I don't want to go off the words of Moxen about him. Often, a brother would try and kill his relative just out of spite. I don't want to vote for Moxen either. He's crazy but it seems like his story is checking out. So Link and young Link were vanilla until at least 3 other people died...

Hatredboy77

04-22-04, 16:33

I dunno about Xmoo now that I looked back. The way he was acting Day 1 really tells me he is just a confused townie. I suspect that most mafia members actually VOTED for HighRoller to escape suspition.

Phanto, if you got a townie last night and he is just a townie, why can't you just tell us who it is? If he is just a townie, he has nothing to fear. Why would the mafia lynch a regular townie?

I still think that Mr. Brown is acting like a mafia would. He was calm and quiet on day one. (Note to all: WASHU IS GOOD IF NO ONE COMES FORWARD AND CLAIMS MARTH. I kinda figured he was marth, his role was too good as "kirby". He was trying to get the mafia to attack him at night cuz he prolly has a defense move.) People that use FOS = annoying people who copy off of other people or are mafia but dont want to try attention to themselves and telling you who to vote for at the same time. Every time Mr. Brown FOS someone (like Washu) he votes for them in the next posting of his. His actions stink of mafia. It seems he is out to get Washu.

I really dont have any proof, but what kind of proof can you offer in a game like this? I have a suspition and I am acting on it. I might even be wrong, but thats a chance I am willing to make. I believe that Brown is a good start for a debate. Get off of Washu. Unless you can prove he isnt Marth or the real Marth comes forward, he is fine for now.

Chrome Moxen

04-22-04, 18:20

Godamnit stax... Why... i wont even get into this..

and Fayd 4 because of me Young Link, he isnt in Zelda (is he?)

Paul: yes i beleive Zoob just did that.. so you gonna die stupid mafia.

Godamnit you idiots. I posted my paraphrased PM before zoob did. You guys are so thick at sometimes...

Phanto

04-22-04, 18:46

Not letting the mafia know whom I targeted gives us an advantage, as it makes my future investigations easier.

We have so many lukers. Let's force them to post.

Viperdude

04-22-04, 18:51

Sorry, I haven't really paid attention to this thread very much lately. I'll read the last few pages then post what I think.

Zoobamaphooza

04-22-04, 20:04

Votes:

Chrome Moxen - 1 (Stax Reborn)
Mr Brown - 1 (Hatredboy77)
X_MoO_U_OoM_X - 2 (Chrome Moxen, Dementia Blader)
Washu - 2 (X_MoO_U_OoM_X, Mr Brown)

11 to kill. Sorry for the confusion.

Washu

04-22-04, 20:15

Id almost bet Xmoo and Brown are mafia. They are bandwaggoning extremely, and make no sense to me

Vote Xmoo

Dementia Blader

04-22-04, 20:23

I bet that the 4 are because of a total of 4 Zelda char.s counting Zelda and Shiek as one. And Xmoo, Moxen's wording of his role being exactly like zoob's clears him pretty much, and seeing as noone has contradicted Washu's (Is he really a she? Off-topic, just wondering) claim of Marth, though changing your claim never really has been good play. You, hovever, defended Highroller, making you easily votable.

Charlo0oki

04-22-04, 20:23

Let's see what we have today:

(Note to all: WASHU IS GOOD IF NO ONE COMES FORWARD AND CLAIMS MARTH. I kinda figured he was marth, his role was too good as "kirby". He was trying to get the mafia to attack him at night cuz he prolly has a defense move.)

If no one claims, it doesn't mean he's "good". All it means is that his character claim is correct (unless someone isn't coming forward). For all we know, he could be Mafia. I wouldn't have suspected Falco was Mafia since he was on Fox's side in the game (only played the original though).

And rather than use an FoS, I'll just say that if Washu turns out to be Mafia, you're my first suspect.

Id almost bet Xmoo and Brown are mafia. They are bandwaggoning extremely, and make no sense to me

So you're only suspicious of the ones that vote for you? Makes sense:rolleyes: Pay no atention to Chrome Moxen who votes more than all of the US:p

Vote: Washu

Washu

04-22-04, 20:32

Arcane- Moxen was the one who voted me yesterday, i chose xmoo because i believe he is bandwaggoning more, and just getting annoying this game. On top of that, I also believe that moxen is the innocent one, unless he is gannondorf, he would have not been able to claim the way he did yesterday. On top of that, xmoo and moxen seem to be brothers, but on different sides

I WASHU AM A GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dementia- I am an innocent, im not sure what Anix has as Roy, but i think he is evil, because we are not masons, and he wont say if he has my ability. I in effect am a vig, with parameters, and my trick to get a mafia killed lastnight failed.

Chrome Moxen

04-22-04, 20:52

:smoker:I'm town not evil! im good not bad! why can't you believe that? For now Washu seems innocent, because Marth hasn't stepped forward. Get XMoo I know hes evil!:smoker:

:smoker:Washu will be inncoent untill/unless a Marth steps forward. Get XMoo!:smoker:

Mr Brown

04-22-04, 21:13

My opinion on Washu is that he is guilty until proven innocent, not the other way around. He messed things up, and if he wants my trust (and hopefully the town's) he has to deserve it.

He doesn't seem to be making that effort, as in post #238 he completely ignores my accusation and uses it as evidence that I am a bandwagoning mafioso.

CRiX

04-22-04, 21:16

Just want to add one thing to the conversation about Washu's claim.

(maybe a bit of the devil's advocate) Who said Marsh was definetely good?

Washu hasn't proven that he's a vig either.. there was only one kill last night. However, I understand him *not* killing seeing as he wouldn't know who is mafia at this point, so I don't hold that against him.

My $0.02 about that anyway.

Dementia Blader

04-22-04, 21:25

Washu, Xmoo and Moxen are brothers in real life. With Fox's clone, Falco evil, marth's clone, Roy, being evil could be argued for. Maybe this is Super Smash Bros.: Attack of the Clones?

List of Clones
Original: Clone
Link: Young Link
Pikachu: Pichu
Fox: Falco
Mario: Dr. Mario/Luigi (Sort of)
Captain Falcon: Ganondorf
Marth: Roy

Chrome Moxen

04-22-04, 21:34

LoL. Maybe not a clone, maybe a deputey. Im young link (links deputey)

pichu = pikachu's deputey

roy and marth = good/evil masons or both good or evil

CF = Samus?

Dementia Blader

04-22-04, 21:38

I'm not talking duplicate role's in this game, I'm talking about copied move sets in the video game.

Charlo0oki

04-22-04, 21:41

ALl I know is that once someone claims a pokemon character, I hope that they say what the pokemon says:p

Pikachu: Pikachu! *shocks Washu*:p

Pika Pi ^.^

Don't mind me, I was playing Pokemon Coloseum this morning:p

Hatredboy77

04-22-04, 22:13

I see your point against Marth. He might actually BE evil. My point is that Washu isnt mafia because he doesnt ACT like it. He is talkative and never shuts up. mafia arent like this. You might be saying "well, he might be talking a lot because he is mafia". Thats a terrible strategy for mafia. Look what you are doing to him right now. He is under heavy suspition. Either he will be lynched or targeted by Phanto. Mafia want to stay out of the spotlight, not be the star. Him being Marth is the cherry on top. I believe him to be Marth and I believe Marth is good. Falco was bad because he was a bad person. He was mean in the games and cocky. Thats a characteristic of a "bad person".

I understand your point, but try to understand mine.