Planeswalkers and "damage each opponent" cards

[AtriumXP]

How do cards like Earthquake, Hurricane, Sizzle, Breath of Malfegor, et. al. interact with Planeswalkers, if at all?

Here's what I'm looking at:

306.8. If noncombat damage would be dealt to a player by a source controlled by an opponent, that opponent may have that source deal that damage to a planeswalker the first player controls instead. This is a redirection effect (see rule 613.9) and is subject to the normal rules for ordering replacement effects (see rule 615). The opponent chooses whether to redirect the damage as the redirection effect is applied.

This tells me that if I cast a spell like Earthquake, I get to specify for each player whether the damage goes to the opponent or any one Planeswalker they have out. For instance, if I have one out, I can redirect the damage from Earthquake to my own planeswalker (to avoid taking the damage). Also, if I have opponents with planeswalkers out, I can use the Earthquake to take them out as a damage replacement effect.

Am I reading this correctly?

[Forgotten One]

Originally Posted by AtriumXP

How do cards like Earthquake, Hurricane, Sizzle, Breath of Malfegor, et. al. interact with Planeswalkers, if at all?

In essence, if a spell would deal damage to an opponent you can redirect all of the damge to a single Planeswalker they control instead.

This tells me that if I cast a spell like Earthquake, I get to specify for each player whether the damage goes to the opponent or any one Planeswalker they have out.

This is correct.

For instance, if I have one out, I can redirect the damage from Earthquake to my own planeswalker (to avoid taking the damage).

No. This rule only works if the damage is dealt to an opponent. Damage you deal to yourself cannot be redirected to a Planeswalker you control.

[AtriumXP]

BAH! Strip me of my tools!!

Oh well, thanks for the clarification - at least I know for sure now. I don't think many situations would have come up where I'd need to redirect my own damage like that anyhow. But I did think it seemed rather clever if it were legal

[pops]

can i redirect damage from Harm's Way. A creature attacks me, I redirect the damage to the player, now can I then re-direct to the Plainswalker?

[rabbit]

hmmm while on the subject. If you Blightning a player, you can re-direct damage to PW, but can you still force the player to pitch 2 cards? I would say no since the spell at that point targets the PW, but not sure.

[AtriumXP]

@ pops - I think the ability to redirect to a Planeswalker is a replacement effect for "target player" so I'm betting the answer is "yes".

@ rabbit - as above, the Planeswalker becomes a replacement target for "target player". The discard effect does nothing since the Planeswalker has no cards in hand (same as would happen in the event your target player were holding no cards).

[Filth]

Originally Posted by pops

can i redirect damage from Harm's Way. A creature attacks me, I redirect the damage to the player, now can I then re-direct to the PlaNEswalker?

No. You can only redirect to planeswalkers any noncombat damage that a source you control would deal to an opponent. You can't redirect damage from creatures attacking you because it's combat damage AND you don't control it. You also can't redirect damage from an opposing Blightning to its controller and have it hit his or her planeswalker instead, because you don't control the source of the damage. Harm's Way doesn't deal damage, or change the source of the damage, it just changes where the damage goes.

The only way you could redirect damage to a planeswalker with Harm's Way is if, for example, it was damage that your own Pyroclasm would have dealt to your creature(s).

@ AtriumXP: You can't target planeswalkers with burn, because they are not creatures or players. Only spells or abilities that say "target planeswalker" or "target permanent" (or "noncreature/nonland/non-whatever permanent") can target planeswalkers. You can target your opponent with Blightning, and during its resolution choose to have the damage dealt to one of that player's planeswalkers. The targeted player still discards the cards.