sacrificing & auras

[ALANAM]

A couple of questions-

Player A has a double strike critter enchanted with Scourge of the Nobilis (Enchant creature As long as enchanted creature is red, it gets +1/+1 and has "o(r/w): This creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn." As long as enchanted creature is white, it gets +1/+1 and has lifelink. (Whenever it deals damage, its controller gains that much life.)

He attacks with that creature and pays 3 manas for +1/+0 ability.

Player B naturalizes Scourge of the Nobilis. Player B argues that the double striker critter lost its +3 pump once the enchentment left play. Is that true?

Second question:

Player A controls Progenitus and one other green critter. He plays Natural Order- As an additional cost to play Natural Order, sacrifice a green creature. Search your library for a green creature card and put that card into play. Then shuffle your library.

Player B plays an instant to destroys the other green critter. Player A argues that as part of the mana cost for Natural Order is to sac the green critter and that way he won't need to sac his Progenitus. Whats the outcome? Thanks.

[Forgotten One]

Originally Posted by ALANAM

A couple of questions-

Player A has a double strike critter enchanted with Scourge of the Nobilis (Enchant creature As long as enchanted creature is red, it gets +1/+1 and has "o(r/w): This creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn." As long as enchanted creature is white, it gets +1/+1 and has lifelink. (Whenever it deals damage, its controller gains that much life.)

He attacks with that creature and pays 3 manas for +1/+0 ability.

Player B naturalizes Scourge of the Nobilis. Player B argues that the double striker critter lost its +3 pump once the enchentment left play. Is that true?

Sourge of the Nobilis actually grants the ability to the creature, so the +1/+0 effect will last until the beginning of the end step, regardless of whether the enchantment remains in play or not. Player B is wrong.

If Scourge of the Nobilis read ": Enchanted creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn.", then the ability would be a part of the enchantment and would go away once the enchantment leaves play.

Second question:

Player A controls Progenitus and one other green critter. He plays Natural Order- As an additional cost to play Natural Order, sacrifice a green creature. Search your library for a green creature card and put that card into play. Then shuffle your library.

Player B plays an instant to destroys the other green critter. Player A argues that as part of the mana cost for Natural Order is to sac the green critter and that way he won't need to sac his Progenitus. Whats the outcome? Thanks.

Sacrificing a green creature is part of the cost of playing Natural Order, just like paying its mana cost. ALL costs must be paid in order for the spell to even be cast, which in this case also includes the sacrifice of a green creature. When Player A announces he is playing Natural Order, that player must pay its mana cost AND sacrifice the creature to put the spell on the stack. Then Player B gets priority. There is no time for Player B to destroy the other green creature prior to it being sacrificed. Again, Player B is wrong.

[ALANAM]

Perfect. Thanks much.