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Old 10-05-09, 11:16   #1
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Quick check: Bloodchief Ascension + Archive Trap

Player A has Bloodchief Ascension in play with three counters on it and passes his turn.

Player B draws and then uses a fetch land. Player A plays Archive Trap...

I know Player B loses 2 life for the fetch land hitting the graveyard, but what about the Archive Trap?

How much total life can you have Player B lose from Bloodchief Ascension? Is it 28 (2 for fetch land and then 2 per card from the Trap) or just 4 (2 for the fetch land and 2 for Archive sending any amount of cards at once)?
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Old 10-05-09, 12:41   #2
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The relevant cardtext for this interaction is that Bloodchief Ascension will trigger for a land card going to the opponent's graveyard from anywhere, and that it will trigger once for each land card.

If your opponent flips over 13 lands cards out of the 13 cards milled from their library into their graveyard, Bloodchief Ascension will trigger 13 seperate times. It will also have triggered for the fetch land going to the graveyard, so that would be a 14th trigger.

Unless the opponent has something up their sleeve, they would lose 28 life and you would gain 28 life.
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But it triggers for each card, whether it's a land or not - I don't see what you mean about it being lands.


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At the beginning of each end step, if an opponent lost 2 or more life this turn, you may put a quest counter on Bloodchief Ascension. (Damage causes loss of life.)

Whenever a card is put into an opponent's graveyard from anywhere, if Bloodchief Ascension has three or more quest counters on it, you may have that player lose 2 life. If you do, you gain 2 life.
So the answer seems to me that this is a fairly badass combo, right?
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But it triggers for each card, whether it's a land or not - I don't see what you mean about it being lands.
I mistyped. I was working on a deck and thinking about landfall triggers at the time, where Bloodchief Ascension obviously has nothing to do with landfall.
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