Noetic Scales

Photoshoped · 11-10-09, 12:44

Deck
Creatures: 19 4x Birds of Paradise 4x Utopia Tree 4x Guiltfeeder 3x Hedron Crab 3x Ornithopter 1x Doran, the Seige Tower Other :21 4x Noetic Scales 4x Dark Ritual 4x Duress 3x Blackmail 2x Oppression 2x Mind Peel 2x Demonspine Whip	Land :20 4x Verdant Catacombs 2x Misty Rainforest 2x Polluted Delta 3x Forest 7x Swamp 2x Island

erm yeah. its just a rough draft.
but the idea is to lower the size of the opponents hand so he has no creatures. then you swing away with you 0 power stuff. guiltfeeder is the main attacker. discarding + hedron will make him better.

ideas n such will be good.
again, this is just a rough draft.

Noctem · 11-10-09, 19:10

id say more dorans, and out with birds and in with that exalted druid (cant remember name)

instead of demonspine, id put in behemoth sledge or something like that. The lifegain vs the extra dmg is worth it

ironfoot87 · 11-30-09, 18:31

I like the bops, as they can tap for B when necessary. You'll probably be attacking with more than one creature at a time anyway, so exalted won't help a lot.

Definitely more Dorans, they get the thopters, feeders, and bops (another reason to keep bops here) really goin. Maybe Aven Envoy? I think you could drop a utopia tree or two for more Siege Towers.

I don't know if Ritual is necessary. It helps power out a guilt feeder but not much else (especially with 4x bop and 2x Utopia for mana acceleration). Hymn to tourach would be brutal in this deck, if your mana base can support it. Obviously duals would help the fetch package, but even some tri-color CIP tapped lands would be good here too. Speed isn't too much of a problem.

Your deck could use some removal of some kind, though.

@ Noctem: Behemoth sledge won't work very well! Any creature will have to be returned due to +2/+2. I personally like the demonspine; it gets around the scales and can pump some evasion dudes.

Photoshoped · 11-30-09, 20:20

yeah removal would probably help, i never really thought about cause of the combo (sotosay).
i was thinking about dropping the creature count down to something like 4x bop, 4x feeder, 3x doran
rituals are just for a mana boost early on, more discard, feeder, scales, etc.

something like...

Deck
Creatures: 11 4x Birds of Paradise 4x Guiltfeeder 3x Doran, the Seige Tower Other :27 4x Noetic Scales 4x Dark Ritual 4x Duress 4x Terror 4x Disfigure 4x Hymn to tourach 2x Mind Peel 2x Demonspine Whip	Land :22 4x Verdant Catacombs 4x Terramorphic Expanse 3x Forest 11x Swamp

Charlo0oki · 12-01-09, 16:28

Ensnaring Bridge would also be good control against your opponent since all your creatures have 0 power.

Noctem · 12-01-09, 16:41

good call sir, totally forgot about that one

Photoshoped · 12-01-09, 17:58

bridge would be nice, but i dont intend to have no cards in my hand.
it would work better if it worked like the scales (eg. that players hand effected there creatures)
but, going back on what noctem/ironfoot said.
sledge would be nice, but id rather go with loxodon warhammer. +3/+0, equip to an opponents creature, and its gone, kind of.
also, do you think 10 discard cards is enough for this?
i havent really play tested it or anything, dont have the time T_T
and, what should i do for the sideboard?

11-10-09, 19:10	#2
Noctem Wizard Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Austin, capitol of the greatest country in the world, Texas Posts: 174	id say more dorans, and out with birds and in with that exalted druid (cant remember name) instead of demonspine, id put in behemoth sledge or something like that. The lifegain vs the extra dmg is worth it __________________ "You taught me to hate, I'll teach you to fear" Don't Click HERE!!! My have/want list http://mtgnews.com/showthread.php?t=210256

11-30-09, 18:31	#3
ironfoot87 Archmagus Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: 123 Fake Street Posts: 445	I like the bops, as they can tap for B when necessary. You'll probably be attacking with more than one creature at a time anyway, so exalted won't help a lot. Definitely more Dorans, they get the thopters, feeders, and bops (another reason to keep bops here) really goin. Maybe Aven Envoy? I think you could drop a utopia tree or two for more Siege Towers. I don't know if Ritual is necessary. It helps power out a guilt feeder but not much else (especially with 4x bop and 2x Utopia for mana acceleration). Hymn to tourach would be brutal in this deck, if your mana base can support it. Obviously duals would help the fetch package, but even some tri-color CIP tapped lands would be good here too. Speed isn't too much of a problem. Your deck could use some removal of some kind, though. @ Noctem: Behemoth sledge won't work very well! Any creature will have to be returned due to +2/+2. I personally like the demonspine; it gets around the scales and can pump some evasion dudes. __________________ Even Peter Parker thought Invasion was the coolest. http://www.logosresourcepages.org/Occult/magic-g.htm

12-01-09, 16:28	#5
Charlo0oki Black Gives Way To Blue Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Collecting some stars to shine for you. Posts: 9,752	Ensnaring Bridge would also be good control against your opponent since all your creatures have 0 power. __________________ MVP: Mafia - Mechanic Mafia

12-01-09, 16:41	#6
Noctem Wizard Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Austin, capitol of the greatest country in the world, Texas Posts: 174	good call sir, totally forgot about that one __________________ "You taught me to hate, I'll teach you to fear" Don't Click HERE!!! My have/want list http://mtgnews.com/showthread.php?t=210256

12-01-09, 17:58	#7
Photoshoped Planeswalker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Roaring Spring, PA Posts: 626	bridge would be nice, but i dont intend to have no cards in my hand. it would work better if it worked like the scales (eg. that players hand effected there creatures) but, going back on what noctem/ironfoot said. sledge would be nice, but id rather go with loxodon warhammer. +3/+0, equip to an opponents creature, and its gone, kind of. also, do you think 10 discard cards is enough for this? i havent really play tested it or anything, dont have the time T_T and, what should i do for the sideboard? __________________ Im not saying that we could do better, but given the chance we'd try...

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